if you are ready for everything... try to listen the talk by ciro aulicino you will be with me in paradise.. the fact, that jw are willing to listen such crap is a proof, they are all insane.
(i wanted to say "idoits", but decided to be polite...).
if you have good guts, sit down and go for it.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwa9kx5wjtm.
If you are ready for everything... try to listen the talk by Ciro Aulicino YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE.
The fact, that JW are willing to listen such crap is a proof, they are all insane. (I wanted to say "idoits", but decided to be polite...)
If you have good guts, sit down and go for it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwA9KX5WJTM
Albert
ok so the mate took good notes at the ca and here is the newest on "higher education:.
the usual bashing of motives: those who want great wealth, prestige and seek it in a college educationcollege graduates don't always get jobs in their fieldsdrugs, drinking and sex are "rampant" at collegesthose who want to "snatch us away" are near if we go to college (isa 54)if we seek a college education, we are not spiritual mindedthe most disturbing for me was this:.
those who choose college will not get blessings from jehovahand of course there was the obligatory interview with the college graduate who disdains the education whe received.. .
I am thankfull for this clear position of WTBS on education:
What better proof WTBS is a cult you can get?
It is so clear when you listen to some talks on college/education they are just a mind controlling cult... I use it a lot in discussions with my JW wife - there is nothing she can say on that...
Discouraging people from getting education ... just think - why do they say it??? It is so clear .... Why did communist regimes persecute educated people ? ... sending them to labor camps??? The more education you have, the more questions you ask, the more difficult it is to control you ... It is so clear!!!!!
Rank and File: You do not need education! Be stupid, ask no questions and believe whatever we say!!!
Albert
a college diploma :).
i am 17 credits away from my associate of arts degree!.
after getting my dream sidetracked by the borganization.
YoursChelbie - But what if Armageddon comes and you will be unprepared, wasting your precius god-given time with a useless studies? Now ... when the end is so close...??? Shouldnt you ask your elders for some good advice?
:-) Just kidding... Good luck and go for it!
Albert
the plot to kill hitler and take over the government by a large group of hitlers elite officers.
the bomb in hitlers bunker did not kill him...they almost suceeded.....religiously the same "coupe" happened when hurbert armstrong died {world wide church} his new president adopted the trinity and tried to join the mainstream churches which divided the church into many factions.
if these two ultra dedicated organisations can be overtaken and infultrated like the watchtower was with ray franz, edward dunlap....could this happen again?.
Sure it is a possibility. Current WTBS leadership is "not doing anything" to show new direction and to adapt to a a changing circumstances ... Thats exactly the same attitude what the old communist leaders in Eastern Europe had - and thats why it collapsed one day completely.
Albert
in the ble book "life - how did it get here?
by evolution or by creation?
" on page 203 you can see a picture of a mamooth with a note: frozen mamooth found in siberia ... still had grass in his mouth and in his stomach .... was frozen immediately ....".
Bohm:
who on the ark had syfilis, and was it the same person who had gonnoreah?
Great point, Iam going to ask my zealous JW friend!
Albert
jehovahs witnesses often state or infer that not practicing their form of worship is tantamount to "suicide.
" naturally, many disagree.. medical doctors might make a similar negative prediction concerning those who smoke, are obese, or who consume drugs or alcohol excessively.. question: even were these sources correct, does a human being have the right to select the manner in which they die, or is there a moral obligation to live as long as possible?.
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Mainly: Nobody has a right to force little kids to believe they should rather die and this way to "please God". NOBODY!!!
Albert
in the ble book "life - how did it get here?
by evolution or by creation?
" on page 203 you can see a picture of a mamooth with a note: frozen mamooth found in siberia ... still had grass in his mouth and in his stomach .... was frozen immediately ....".
In the ble book "Life - how did it get here? By Evolution or by creation?" on page 203 you can see a picture of a mamooth with a note: Frozen mamooth found in Siberia ... still had grass in his mouth and in his stomach .... was frozen immediately ...."
It is presented as a proof of a world wide flood. But it raises a question:
Were there really Mamooths in the time f Noah? Do we have any proof of that?
If there were Mamooths in Noahs time, why he didnt take them to the Ark? They should be saved in Ark for our day....
And actually why should they freeze instantly during flood? If they were hit by heavy rain, they should be wet, drowned, rotten .... byt why instantly frozen?
What answer do you think you might get from JWs?
Albert
i believe this thread will be many pages!.
In my country (eastern Europe) I was obliged to go to military or alternative service in the early 90s. Alternative service meant to be assigned to work in a hospital or school or similar assignment for 1,5 year. But society decided alternative service is not good for true christians...
When we asked "why"? Society said "Dont ask so silly questions... it is clear and obvious!"
So brothers had to decide: Either to go to prison for not going to the alternative service (many many really did...) or be disfellowshipped (many many really were...)
Actually there was another option, encuraged by the Bethel: Go to the psychotherapist, lie to him you are mentally sick, have suicidal ideas etc. and be declared insane to serve in the army (many many really did so...) .
This was my issue at the time and I was just minutes frm getting into prison. Also my nonbelieveing family thought I must be an idiot avoiding alternative service, giving stupid illogical reasons...
Many were questioning the policy of the society.... "whats wrong in helping in a hospital and this way be deleted from the army records...." but we only got arrgant and zealous speeches from COs and DOs... "It is so clear brothers, how can you even think about serving the alternative service and have doubts abut FDS...!"
And then all of sudden in 1996 WT came saying "In countries, where it is possible to serve an alternative service to a military training, it is a fine way for christians to do so and this way to show obedience to the authorities blah blah...."
And then a letter came to the elders: How should we view brothers, who were DF for serving alternative service before WT stated it is possible? They are still DF and we will not apologize to them. However, if they will ask us to allow them to return to the flock, we will consider their request... blah blah blah "
Idiots and hypocrites!
Albert
lets start topics for discussion with jws, such ones, that will make them feel very unconfortable..... my first turn:.
why did jehovah create dinosaurs?
jehovah is a god of love right?
Ziddina - you are right with the gas - I heard this from one sister already, but she was serioous!
Villabol: He created violent dinosaurs so that their discovery could stumble demonized apostates like us
that sounds very logical :-)
Parrot: My mum told me they were created to flatten the Earth -.-
Thats a great one!
Anybody got any other explanations?
Albert
i lived for the first 20 years of my life in a communist country.. .
great .... .
we were told we lived in the best regime, had best medical care, best election system, best goverment, no criminality like in the western countries, no unemploymence like in the western countries, not all the problems like people in the west ..... .
Hi Kurtbethel, next time you come to Prague, let me know ... we will go for one beer together... serious!
Iam happy you did like it here.
Albert
